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Jerome Rand, host of the Sailing Into Oblivion podcast, sits down with James Hodge, a stand-up comic and fellow Westsail owner, for a wide-ranging conversation recorded aboard Mighty Sparrow while the boat undergoes extensive refit work in a North Carolina boatyard.6:48 Hodge owns a Westsail he has named Greybeard, currently in the same boatyard, and a Catalina 25 he sails while the Westsail is being worked on — logging roughly one sailing day for every five days of boatwork.12:50 The two discuss Hodge's sailing goals: offshore passages to the BVI, Panama, and eventually an Atlantic crossing to Portugal and the Canaries with his son.8:28 Safety philosophy comes up through a discussion of sailor and author John Passmore, whose book Old Man Sailing recounts a COVID-era Atlantic voyage from England over the top of the UK to the Azores, cut short when Passmore blew out his jib and split his mainsail.36:58 The conversation shifts to stand-up comedy, stage presence, timing, writing jokes for hire, and the dynamics of performing before large crowds, including a reference to Paul Mooney's work with Richard Pryor.54:10 Musician Brendan James is credited for the podcast's theme music, a song called "Yellow Lines."1:55

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