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Lin Pardey and David Haigh sit down with James aboard their steel Van der Stadt 36 (extended to 37 feet, built 1991 in Sydney) at a marina in New Zealand for the inaugural episode of James's new podcast series, Yarns: Conversations with Cruisers.2:57 David describes sailing the boat — named Sahula — up the Danube and Rhine, through European canals, and across to the Mediterranean starting in 2008, noting her shallow draft made canal cruising practical.5:59 Lin recounts her decades sailing engineless boats: Seraffyn at 24 feet, Taliesin at 29 feet, both with no engine and minimal electronics, and explains how that simplicity enabled full-time cruising on a small budget.14:35 She describes serving as foredeck captain on a Carter 37 during a full English race season.13:45 The two met on Kawau Island when David sailed past during a music festival Lin was coordinating; he came for a drink, stayed until midnight, and moved in nine months later.11:53 Lin addresses sailing in her 70s — reduced agility, a new appreciation for a windlass foot-switch, and adjusting to an instrument-equipped boat after a lifetime without radar or engines.21:20 Both argue that oversized, over-equipped boats trap owners in maintenance and cost, preventing the spontaneous, community-rich cruising they found by going 50 miles off the beaten track in Vanuatu.1:06 The practical lesson they return to: go small, go simple, go now — a smaller boat you understand completely outperforms a larger one you can barely afford to run.59:57

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